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Scott Aaronson's avatar

I, too, vaguely glimpse this dichotomy every day! But here's the central problem: if I look back at all the things I've done in my life that are most "A Thing" -- theorems about quantum computing, my book, the Complexity Zoo -- not one of them was A Thing when it started. They were just me messing around, amusing myself or trying to get unconfused. Indeed, if they *had* been A Thing from the start, I would've been much too scared to work on them. So then, at what point in the creation of A Thing does it *become* A Thing? Do we need some criterion analogous to viability outside the womb? :-)

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Trinley Goldenberg's avatar

I am constantly wondering if what I'm doing has "thingness", and appreciate you groping at what it is.

One thing that didn't feel quite right to me was the discussion about the bowl and adversarial intent.

I think the biggest effect of the bowl is that the mind that makes the bowl will have a huge effect on the bowls aesthetics, form, and even function. When I use the bowl created by that mind day after day, some of that mind will rub off on my mind, bringing me closer to it.

For instance, if most of my objects are created with a more eastern view of mastery, in which what makes an object masterful is that you can't tell who the creator was (because they subsume themselves completely to function), a bit of that collectivist mind will rub off on me. Similarly with many objects with a more individualistic western definition of mastery in which my uniqueness and style is in each piece, and you can see me in it.

And so the worry about scientism -are the people who wrote the hundreds of scientific papers I read connected deeply to wisdom and love? What mind am I taking on as I read those papers?

I'm constantly worried about the impact of my mind when I'm creating Things. Certainly, I've spent hundreds of hours perfecting my coaching craft, learning words, techniques, theories. but the main question I'm asking myseld every session is an I coming from a mind of wisdom and love as I coach. If the answer is no, I often end the session because I know the impact my mind will have on the transformation that takes place

Similarly as I wriye my book, I've been doing lots of reading on the craft of writing, how to put it together, making sure the framework makes sense, the anecdotes are in the right place, I use active voice, etc. but on top of all those, I'm making sure that the mind that writes the book is one that I'd be proud to have propagate to those that read it.

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